i want to hear him say something, this sent what freandly government should do to another government. your thoughts? >> i'm not sure we entirely know the severity of what he did. when bill clinton got close to releasing jonathan pollard in the late 1990s when benjamin netanyahu was first prime minister, his own cia director threatened to resign and they may know things that we don't know. again, i'm not saying i'm against commuting a sentence, i just think there's some things we don't know about what in fact he did. >> you're right. but it's 12 more years that he's served. >> yes. >> by the way, the way clinton handled those things was not the best part of his presidency. thank you, robert wexler and peter, who improves his image with me every day. we'll be back after this. [ kitt ] you know what's impressive? a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train. this ge locomotive can tell you exactly where it is, what it's carrying, while using less fuel. delivering whatever the world needs, when it needs it. ♪ after all, what's the point of talking if you don't hav